Reader’s comment: 


“An ex pastor who is very suspicious is Benj Geerling. Worked at Coffs Harbour Lifehouse church, Tatura AOG, Faith Church Dandenong, Victoria Youth Alive, Free 2 Be Kids. Have heard stories about hands going places they shouldn’t involving teenage girls.”

Benj Geerling, former ACC pastor, of Shepparton, Victoria, Australia (on left).

Donald Elley of Bellingen on November 5, 2020:

Ben Geerling, a former pastor of the ACC (Australian Christian Churches) in Victoria and New South Wales, is currently under investigation by Victorian police for alleged sex assaults on women and girls in Victoria and New South Wales. Historic police files have been re-opened. 

Would any readers in the know please advise me if, and when, Ben Geerling gets charged by Victorian police.

I am not saying Ben Geerling is guilty or innocent. I do know there have been complaints by readers about Benj Geerling and his conduct with women and girls.

And that police are currently interviewing victims.

Ben Geerling should be very worried if he has done something unsavoury like sex assaults on women or girls.

If Ben Geerling is innocent, he’ll have to prove it in the light of police witnesses and victim testimony. Multiple victim testimonies are very hard to argue against, especially if they are signed statements, willing to testify in court, and from multiple, diverse locations, such as in the Benj Geerling case,

Blog article from January 2018

Information has been added since this time as more information has become available from readers of this site.

Former ACC (Australian Christian Churches) pastor Benj Geerling of Shepparton, Victoria, Australia has been accused by multiple readers of this site of sexually abusing girls in ACC/ AOG churches in the Australian states of New South Wales and Victoria.

This is alleged to have occurred at Coffs Harbour Lifehouse Church in New South Wales, Tatura AOG and Faith Church Dandenong in Victoria, and at Youth Alive and Free 2 Be Kids, ACC regional and national children’s and young people’s ministries.

Former ACC pastor Benj Geerling resides in Shepparton, Victoria, Australia.

If anyone has information on Benj Geerling sexually abusing adult females, girls and/ or children, please go to police and tell them that there are files on Benj Geerling in New South Wales and Victoria.

There are an increasing number of victims coming forward.

In time, Benj Geerling will be charged by police.

Sex abuse victims (adult females, girls and/or female teens) of Benj Geerling should go to police.

Pedophilia is a serious crime with many years jail time in store for pedophiles and sex offenders.

Police are interested in sexual predatory activity against children or adults.

I understand Coffs Harbour, NSW police have a file on Benj Geerling’s alleged sexual abuse of girls some time ago and Victorian police have a file.

Police have special domestic violence and sex offender units to help sex abuse victims. These units offer support and advice.

It is important that sexual predators and pedophiles are reported to police and are not allowed to continue their ongoing sexual activities.

The average pedophile sexually abuses 250 children in their lifetime.

If you have been sexually abused, you can be used as a circuit-breaker to take your perpetrator out of the community. In this way, you protect future victims.

Ex ACC pastor Ben Geerling getting chummy with Pastor Stephen Lott, head pastor of Lifehouse Church, Coffs Harbour, New South Wales, Australia.

Previous readers comments on Benj Geerling of Shepparton, Victoria, Australia.

Truth Seeker

If you have been abused by Benj Geerling please contact your local sexual abuse support service and report the incidents to police. He has lived in Tatura, Adelaide, Coffs Harbour and Shepparton. It doesn’t matter how long ago it happened your truth is valid. There is growing evidence. More people must come forward.


You had a post up about Benj Geerling that is now gone?

Anyone who knows anything about Benj Geerling should speak up


An ex pastor who is very suspicious is Benj Geerling. Worked at Coffs Harbour Lifehouse church, Tatura AOG, Faith Church Dandenong, Victoria Youth Alive, and Free 2 be Kids. I have heard stories about hands going places they shouldn’t involving teenage girls.

10 Comments on an article of mine, “Hillsong founder Frank Houston teen victim Peter Fowler aged 15 abused at Lower Hutt Assemblies of God in New Zealand in 1972”.

  1. Truth Seeker

    Donald Please just delete it for now. I was hoping others might see it and also come forward, but it looks like BG and his buddies follow this page too, no surprise. Please delete it all Donald as I’m going to the police Friday. I shouldn’t have asked to to reshare it all. Please email me so I can let you know the outcome and give you some other names to watch out for. But please for now take it and this comment down I don’t want to antagonise this situation now I’m ready to go to the police for the first time in my life about anything or anyone with fresh evidence not seen before.

    • Truth Seeker Just do what you have to do. I’m leaving my article and comments on Benj Geerling up. Many readers have commented on Benj Geerling over the years. If he’s sexually abused girls, he deserves to go down. If he hasn’t, police may clear him. If you have incriminating evidence on Benj Geerling, then you should go to police immediately.

  2. Matthew Bowles

    Could all those who are using this website to run a Public trial of Benj Geerling please use the proper authorities and avenues? You are doing no one a favour by spreading rumours and complaining to the world at large. But most importantly of all you are abusing Benj himself by keeping up a vile conversation in which you assume he is guilty and openly talk about the “growing evidence”. In fact, this discussion has no merit and no foundation and it casts a dark shadow on everything else that was potentially reported just for information purposes. I’m not denying anything else you’ve covered here like frank houston, but if you switch gears from seeking restitution for proven crimes, into a witch hunt for anyone who catches your fancy, you will just lose all credibility and a sensible person would begin to doubt anything else you’ve stated as fact on your website. Please leave the detective work to the authorities – God knows they struggle to remain unbiased enough without complete strangers baying for blood and creating drama where they have no business. Be blessed. I write this in hopes of you seeing reason. I don’t wish to attack you anymore than I want you attacking Benj Geerling or anyone else who has been accused, whether they were cleared or not. Matt Bowles

  3. Truth Seeker

    if you have been abused by Benj Geerling please contact your local sexual abuse support service and report the incidents to police. He has lived in Tatura, Adelaide, Coffs Harbour and Shepparton. It doesn’t matter how long ago it happened your truth is valid. There is growing evidence. More people must come forward.

  4. Lulu

    You had a post up about Benj Geerling that is now gone?

  5. jupjup

    A leopard can’t change their spots. Good ol’ Benj ‘be sure your sin will find you out’ the Geerling family is very connected and good at covering for him. Feel so sad for his ex wife, his new wife and his kids. Huge mess. One day it will hit the fan for him. Living a life of lies.

  6. Abcdefg

    an ex pastor who is very suspicious is Benj Geerling. Worked at Coffs Harbour life church, Tatura aog, Faith church Dandenong, Victoria youth alive, free 2 be kids. Have heard Stories about hands going places they shouldn’t involving teenage girls

Benj Geerling.

Benj Geerling (front).

Benj Geerling.

“Pastor” Mark Johnson of Faith Family Coffs Harbour. Fake pastor and Christian heretic. Loves Hillsong and Bethel. A very nasty individual. Does hatchet jobs on people he doesn’t like. Mark Johnson has marital problems and lust issues with the young women in his church- a Christian Harvey Weinstein.

I attended Faith Family Coffs Harbour for four years

I attended Faith Family Coffs Harbour for four years from 2015 to 2018. During this time it was called Harbour Church Coffs Harbour. Recently it changed its name. I don’t know the reason for the name change.

I’d recommend not going there as they’re into Hillsong, Bethel heresies, the Prosperity Gospel, weird manifestations, fanaticism and “holy rolling” in the aisles.

It was Ok when I first went there but got worse and worse.

Pagan Fire Tunnels

Have you heard of “Fire Tunnels”?

A member of Faith Family rightly pointed out to “Pastor” Mark Johnson that Bethel’s fire tunnels are pagan. But like so many things, Mark Johnson wouldn’t listen.

“Pastor” Mark Johnson and the other leaders at Faith Family r Coffs Harbour, like head pastor Phil Campbell, haven’t had any deliverance from evil spirits, so they’re just passing on their demons to each other and to unsuspecting new-comers.

Pastor Bill Johnson (right), Bethel Church, Redding, California Head Pastor- pictured doing grave sucking, a form of necromancy, a highly dangerous black-magic art.

Anything goes

If you sin at Faith Family, like at Lifehouse Church Coffs Harbour and at Hillsong, you can get away with anything- adultery, sleeping around whatever.

If you’re accepted in the group dynamic of these Prosperity Gospel and Bethel style churches, you can get away with anything, and they’ll give you a free pass, based on “the Grace of God”.

So there’s no fear of God in these types of churches and no accountability.

This is because it’s all basically a money-junket, enriching and sustaining those at the top.

Junior pastor, “Pastor” Mark Johnson

Junior “Pastor” Mark Johnson has bad breath.

Mark Johnson is completely open about this little problem. He goes around church spraying his mouth and sucking on menthol lollies to try to negate the bad smells.

“Pastor” Mark Johnson always dresses dowdily. His clothes look old, yellowed and not ironed properly. Maybe he does his own ironing?

“Pastor” Mark Johnson , although aged in his 60s, dresses in young people’s clothing and wears sneakers. He looks like mutton in lamb’s clothing.

I notice a lot of these modern older Prosperity Gospel pastors dress like young people to try to look cool and hip. It never works.

It looks worse when their older wives try to do this with cellulite pushing out at the tight young seams.

“Pastor” Mark Johnson is stubborn and pig-headed

“Pastor” Mark Johnson openly says from the pulpit that he has serious issues with stubbornness and with not listening to other people. My observation is that Mark Johnson’s self-analysis is accurate.

It does not occur to Mark Johnson that the summation of his character defects, or even a few of them combined, preclude him from being a true New Testament qualified Christian pastor.

Old Mark Johnson should resign

Old Mark Johnson should resign and do old ladies gardens or go fishing or something.

“Pastor” Phil Campbell, Head pastor of Faith Family Coffs Harbour loves golf more than Jesus

Head pastor of Faith Family Coffs Harbour, “Pastor” Phil Campbell, a New Zealander by origin like me, loves golf more than Jesus.

These are Phil Campbell’s own words from the pulpit, a Freudian slip: “I’d rather talk about golf than talk about Jesus”.

“Pastor” Phil Campbell: “I’d rather talk about golf, than talk about Jesus…just joking…Ha ha”.

When we’re talking about golf, we’re talking about exclusive membership for “Pastor” Phil Campbell and his top pastors at the exclusive Bonville International Gold Course in the Coffs Harbour hinterland, latest top golf clubs, lavish lunches and alcoholic drinks- frequent weekly or twice weekly outings at this exclusive golf course- all on Faith Family tithes and cash.

The poor suckers who attend Faith Family are never told about these pastors’ perks and scams.

Bonville International Golf Course in Coffs Harbour, New South Wales, Australia. AAA course.

“Pastor” Mark Johnson’s marital problems

“Pastor” Mark Johnson is a hard-headed, stubborn moron who is married to a sweet little lady Mimi. I can’t understand why Mimi doesn’t dump Mark Johnson.

A Faith Family insider told me that “Pastor” Mark Johnson and his wife Mimi have endless marital counselling but it’s just revolving doors and groundhog day. The counselling will never end because Mark is a bone-headed wombat who thinks he knows everything, Mark Johnson won’t listen and won’t learn.

That’s without mentioning “Pastor” Mark Johnson’s bad breath. Poor Mimi. Imagine having to hold your nose while you kiss your husband.

“Pastor” Mark Johnson destroys church marriages

Worse, if “Pastor” Mark Johnson doesn’t like someone, he’ll work against them behind their back to undermine and destroy their marriage, even helping whoever he favours to write AVO statements.

This is common amongst these corrupt “Pentecostal” pastors in Australia and all over the planet. Brazen, conscienceless, manipulators and control-freaks.

“Pastor” Mark Johnson likes Bethel heresies 

A lot of folks at Faith Family are into “Pastor” Bill Johnson of Bethel Church, Redding, California, and Bethel heresies. Bethel has a vast world-wide influence.

There are so many things wrong with Bethel- too many to explain in this article.

I’ve written many articles explaining Bethel and it’s heresies. There are a lot of good Christians onto Bethel, exposing them on-line.

Please google “Bethel heresies” and “Bill Johnson false prophet”.

“Pastor” Mark Johnson thinks Brian Houston of Hillsong is a great man of God

“Pastor” Mark Johnson loves Brian Houston and thinks Brian Houston of Hillsong is a great man of God.

“Pastor” Mark Johnson says from the pulpit how he listens to Brian Houston preaching and follows his Twitter feed for inspiration.

I tried to explain to “Pastor” Mark Johnson what a crook and scammer Brian Houston is but his eyes glazed over and he changed the subject.

“Pastor” Mark Johnson has lust problems with the young ladies at Faith Family Coffs Harbour

“Pastor” Mark Johnson has lust problems with the young ladies at Faith Family Coffs Harbour.

This is common amongst modern “Pentecostal” and Hillsong pastors. Anything goes.

“Pastor” Mark Johnson and similar “Pentecostal” pastors use their power over aspirational young ladies in their churches to flirt with them and play power games with them in a “Christian” Harvey Weinstein way.

This behaviour of Mark Johnson is subtle and not acceptable.

“Pastor” Phil Campbell is a fake pastor and out of his depth

“Pastor” Phil Campbell- out if his depth.

“Pastor” Phil Campbell is no better in terms of his “Christian” scams and poor conduct.

“Pastor” Phil Campbell is just another small-minded provincial from a Palmerston North farm back in New Zealand, trying to make it on the big stage. Totally lost and floundering.

“Pastor” Phil Campbell is corrupt and a sly scammer.

I find these things about “Pastor” Phil Campbell particularly sad since his pastor when he was young back in Palmerston North, New Zealand in the 1970s, was a great Holy Spirit man- Pastor Ken Wright.

Pastor Ken Wright saw great revivals throughout the world.

Pastor Ken Wright witnessed and was involved in the Solomon Islands revival of the 1970s.

Nothing of Pastor Ken Wright’s pure Holy Spirit anointing is on “Pastor” Phil Campbell.

In fact, something quite the opposite is on Phil Campbell.

When I shared about Pastor Ken Wright and the power of God on him, I could tell Phil Campbell didn’t know what I was talking about. His eyes gazed over and he replied, “I was only ten at the time”.

“Pastor” Phil Campbell. Doesn’t know the Holy Spirit. Loves golf more than Jesus. Just another Prosperity Gospel pastor who has feathered his own nest and set up a nice little earner so he can live a lavish lifestyle playing golf and tripping about Australia and elsewhere on church money and tithes.

“Why do I hear of so many people who attend Hillsong and C3 and other churches and in some other religious groups and say they are believers and they are shacked up with someone with whom they are not married or in a same sex relationship. Does this bring honour our God and our Heavenly Father and his Son Jesus Christ.”

FB friend of Donald Elley of Bellingen conversation starter.


Donald Elley of Bellingen:

For modern believers to shack up unmarried or live together in same sex relationships isn’t right before God and isn’t Biblical. Maybe many do not know this due to luke-warm preaching and gay-tolerance in modern Pentecostal churches like Hillsong and C3 Church Global.

Hillsong and C3 Church Global were both founded in Sydney, Australia in 1977, and 1980 respectively.

C3 Church Global, formerly known as Christian City Church International (C3i), is a charismatic movement founded by Phil Pringle and Christine Pringle. The first church was started in Dee Why on the Northern Beaches of Sydney, Australia, and is now located in Oxford Falls. As of October 2019, C3 Church Global was a community of over 500 churches.” Wikipedia

Phil and Chris Pringle are from Christchurch in my native New Zealand. As are Frank, Brian and Bobbie Houston.

Phil and Chris Pringle at their wedding in Christchurch 1970s.

Famous Hillsong worship leader Darlene Zschech with her husband Mark and founder and head pastors of C3 Church Global Phil and Chris (Christine) Pringle, a Sydney-based global Prosperity Gospel mega-church of over 500 churches.

“Hillsong Church, commonly known as Hillsong, is a charismatic Christian word of faith megachurch based in Australia. The church, originally called Hills Christian Life Centre, was established in 1983 in Baulkham Hills, New South Wales, by Brian Houston and his wife Bobbie. The church is also known for its worship music, with groups such as Hillsong Worship, Hillsong United and Hillsong Young & Free. Until separating from it in 2018, Hillsong was a member of the Australian Christian Churches (the Australian branch of the Assemblies of God).” Wikipedia.

This Wikipedia extract is inaccurate.

Hillsong was founded five years earlier in 1977 in Double Bay, Sydney, by Brian’s father Frank. Frank was head of Hillsong until 1999 when he confessed to a lifetime of secret child sex crimes.

Frank Houston founder of Hillsong Sydney Morning Herald 9 July 1977.

Pastor Frank Houston and his wife Hazel watching their son Brian fooling with Brian’s then brother-in-law Pastor Ian Carlisle. Their daughter Maureen is watching and laughing.

A young Brian and Bobbie Houston. Late 1970s. About the time they arrived in  Sydney in 1979, two years after Frank founded Hillsong.

I guess the Devil’s in the detail and these little lies of Brian about who founded Hillsong, and when, lead to little lies becoming bigger until your whole life is a lie. The life and lies of Brian Houston.

Hillsong was founded by a pedophile Frank Houston in 1977 who’d been active as a pedophile since the 1940s, perhaps earlier. As early as 1935, when Frank was 13. This is when I believe Frank started abusing little boys. I know for certain he was active from the early 1940s aged 20. He was caught out sexually abusing boys as a Salvation Army captain.

Frank Houston with young man at early Hillsong.

The pedophile Frank Houston in one of his early disguises as a Salvation Army Captain in Auckland New Zealand in the 1940s to early 1950s.

I’m not surprised Hillsong has gone off the rails. It’s founder was a lifelong secret pedophile. Hillsong doesn’t have the Holy Spirit and is a cult.


But what about C3 Church Global?

I was at C3 headquarters church in Oxford Falls, Sydney for five years in total in the late 1990s to 2002. It was ok back then. There were some relationship moral compromises amongst younger people but overall C3 was Biblical. The Prosperity Gospel emphasis was a worry back then. Phil Pringle, like Brian Houston, is very motivated by money.

C3 has gone off the rails badly since 2002. Phil Pringle’s false prophecies and delusions since 2002 are of Biblical proportions.

Phil Pringle maybe never got full deliverance. I don’t think Brian has ever had any. I doubt Brian was ever born again properly. Being raised by and living with a totally corrupt father, Brian really didn’t stand a chance.

In comparison, my father was a leading Protestant clergy who believed and taught the full solid gospel, knew God and walked with the Lord. So I’ve known from the cradle what the real deal is. And what the real deal looks like.

As a very experienced man and highly experienced Christian, I look around these types of Prosperity Gospel churches and see myriad compromises of the Bible and Christian faith. 

The Prosperity Gospel is an inversion of the true New Testament gospel outlined by Christ, Paul and the Apostles who wrote the New Testament.  Early Church leaders Paul, Peter, James the brother of Jesus, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John and Jude wrote the New Testament. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, in particular, recorded the birth and life of Jesus and outlined Christ’s miracles and teachings.

“Why do I hear of so many people who attend Hillsong and C3 and other churches and in some other religious groups and say they are believers and they are shacked up with someone with whom they are not married or in a same sex relationship. Does this bring honour our God and our Heavenly Father and his Son Jesus Christ.”

In response to my FB friend’s conversation starter, I can only say that the Bible, and in particular the New Testament that I was taught from the cradle, clearly does not permit the above-described living and social arrangements, particularly in the Christian church.



Ranin, Carl Lentz’ saucy secret lover.


“Hillsong founder Brian Houston has reportedly been captured on audio lashing ousted celebrity pastor Carl Lentz, accusing him of having multiple affairs and displaying “narcissistic” and “manipulative” behaviour.” Daily Telegraph article below.




George Aghajanian. Deeply involved and complicit in all Brian Houston’s many crimes including pedophile protection. Should be in prison with Brian.


Daily Telegraph

Hillsong founder Brian Houston lays into ousted pastor Carl Lentz,

accuses him of having ‘multiple affairs’

After weeks of staying tight-lipped about his ousted celebrity pastor, Hillsong founder Brian Houston reportedly laid into the “narcissistic” leader.

Natalie WolfeNews Reporter@natwolfe94

December 4, 2020

Hillsong founder Brian Houston has reportedly been captured on audio lashing ousted celebrity pastor Carl Lentz, accusing him of having multiple affairs and displaying “narcissistic” and “manipulative” behaviour.

Mr Lentz, 42, was kicked out of the popular church last month after a number of “moral failures”, that were later revealed as him cheating on his wife.

He and his wife Laura, who have been married for 17 years and share three children, moved from the east coast of the US to Los Angeles late last month in an attempt to salvage their marriage.

Mr Lentz had run Hillsong’s megachurch in New York City and had been popular among its many celebrity adherents including Justin Bieber and his wife Hailey and NBA player Kevin Durant.

Hillsong pastor Carl Lentz with his wife Laura.

Hillsong pastor Carl Lentz with his wife Laura.

New York fashion designer Ranin Karim, 34, went public days after he was fired, admitting she was the one who had been with Mr Lentz, however it’s now been revealed she wasn’t the only one.

“It was more than one affair, they were significant. And at least some bad moral behaviour had gone back historically, but not necessarily those affairs,” Mr Houston said on the recorded meeting, which was later leaked to the Daily Mail.

In the November 19 meeting, which included a number of church executives and top donors,  Mr Houston revealed Mr Lentz’s illustrious career as a Hillsong pastor came crashing down when a staffer working in New York found something “compromising” on his computer.

“I can honestly say before God the first time I heard any moral complaint against Carl was when (Hillsong East Coast Chief Operating Officer Tolu Badders) contacted me,” Mr Houston said.

“Tolu had a conversation with one of the staff members, and that staff member had found a very compromising chain of text messages on Carl’s laptop or computer. And so that person went straight to Tolu. And Tolu, to her credit, the first thing she did was call me.”

Mr Houston didn’t mince words when he spoke about the former pastor, accusing him of “general narcissistic behaviour, manipulating, mistreating people, I think sometimes other hurtful things, the breaches of trust … constantly lying”.

Justin Bieber with Carl Lentz. Picture: YouTube / Hillsong Channel

Justin Bieber with Carl Lentz. Picture: YouTube / Hillsong Channel

Despite Mr Lentz largely being credited with helping Hillsong explode in the US, especially in New York, Mr Houston admitted his former pastor was “difficult”.

“He was a difficult man to have any kind of direct conversation with, because it was always defensive, it would always be put back on the other person, as though they’re the ones with the problem,” Mr Houston told the meeting.

Thousands of Hillsong devotees were crying out for answers after Mr Houston released a statement revealing Mr Lentz had been fired from the church.

In the tight-lipped statement, Mr Houston simply said Mr Lentz was out of the church because of “leadership issues and breaches of trust, plus a recent revelation of moral failures”.

Another Hillsong executive was caught on the leaked audio, revealing Mr Lentz could get a hefty payout.

“We’re working on a severance package which we’re negotiating with them on,” George Aghajanian, General Manager and a director of Hillsong Church Australia said.

“They haven’t accepted that at this point in time.

‘We are trying to care for them as far as they are letting us care for them. And certainly our heart is to look after the children, to look after (Lentz’s wife) Laura, and even Carl who needs a lot of help.”

“And the purpose of that is really to get them the help they need, and to help them through this difficult process, to work on their marriage.

“We’re doing a lot of stuff behind the scenes, it’s not anything we’re going to promote publicly.”

Carl Lentz with his wife and three children.

Carl Lentz with his wife and three children.

Karim did the media rounds last month, after Mr Lentz was fired from Hillsong, revealing they’d sparked up a relationship when he told her he was an unmarried sports agent.

“I wasn’t there for just sex, we both found comfort and a deep, special connection with each other. I am very hurt because we both feel the same way about each other,” Karim told The Sun.

“He told me his name was Carl but that’s it, he wouldn’t tell me his last name. And he told me that his job was as a sports agent.”

Other Hillsong members, on the condition of anonymity, claimed to the Daily Mail that Mr Lentz had been having affairs for years.

“I volunteered at the Green Room (Backstage) at Hillsong NYC for several years before leaving,” one church member said.

“Carl Lentz has been sleeping with women outside of his marriage for at least seven years.

“I was removed from my Green Room duties after seeing Carl with Kevin Durant and Draymond Green at 1OAK Nightclub the night before.

‘Their table was right next to my promoter’s and he left shortly after noticing me around 2am. Carl was very touchy with someone who was clearly NOT his wife.

‘The next day, when I got to the church I was pulled aside and told I was no longer needed because they have enough people.”

Another claimed Mr Lentz “cheated the last five to six years with multiple women.”

“When it all came to light, the church received emails from at least three other women besides Ranin telling their story,” the devotee said.

Mr Lentz took to Instagram after he was fired from Hillsong, revealing he had been unfaithful.

“When you lead out of an empty place, you make choices that have real consequences. I was unfaithful in my marriage, the most important relationship in my life and held accountable for that,” he said.

Carl and Laura Lentz.

Carl and Laura Lentz.